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PostSubject: Re: Strategic Bombing (Read 4th)   Wed Nov 26, 2008 8:17 am

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We should see how many people we have but yes set an order of priorities.

The good news is the 71st will support us and fly escourt and I will ask "The Few' to do the same. If we are going to ask other squads on this one we need to be tight and work together.

I like the idea, but again I bring up this...... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkCNJRfSZBU
Yeah "Leroy Jenkins" says it all


So I think its a better idea to be strickly a (+) mission, planned, discussed, and executed by. Just my feelings
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PostSubject: Re: Strategic Bombing (Read 4th)   Wed Nov 26, 2008 8:23 am

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Yarbles wrote:
We should see how many people we have but yes set an order of priorities.

The good news is the 71st will support us and fly escourt and I will ask "The Few' to do the same. If we are going to ask other squads on this one we need to be tight and work together.

I like the idea, but again I bring up this...... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkCNJRfSZBU
Yeah "Leroy Jenkins" says it all


So I think its a better idea to be strickly a (+) mission, planned, discussed, and executed by. Just my feelings

That Leroy Slap lol!

Agreed in the sense I for one would not give another squad a key role and not rely on any other squad but if they can help its simply a bonus. Possible escourt and diversionary atacks is as much as I would ask from another squad. Other squads will be particularly important for the follow up in taking bases reaping the advantage we have given them.

We need nice small map with at least the factories close to our start line. Kvuo is rightly concerned about porking the troops around the HQ and I for one would like him to lead this part of the mission, loosely at this stage I would like to lead the atack on the HQ with at least one other and Ean to lead the atack on the city. The core of the Factory recking crew should be I believe Medic, Klingan, nutte Saffron using either Bombers or 110's depending on the distance. The important thing is they must keep going and re up to support the city/hq/pork as soon as the job is done.

In outline

HQ Squad: Yarbles and 1 to 2 more in high Lancs (I would like Floats and Marc, plus escort from The Few or 71st)

City Squad: Ean plus one or two others in Lancs or B24'S (Plus escort from The Few or 71st)(If for whatever reason Eans squad doesnt make it the HQ squad to divert)

HQ Porking Squad: Vuo plus one or 2 others (plane and method of his choice timing crucial here, this will be hard to co ordinate with both forces (HQ and Pork squad) spending the longest time over enemy territory)(Again diverts to the city if necessary)

Factory Squad: Medic, Klingan, Curnutte, Saffron and anyone else not allocated. If 2 of this 4 could lead the 2 factory missions . We need strong leadership on the factories and the capacity to get a reasonable no of 234,s up if necessary.

As soon as the factory squad have those factories down get into 234's and help with the City, HQ and the pork in that order. A formation of 234's packs a reasonable punch at the city and could tip it at the HQ. If you arnt a 234 pilot B17'S for speed and surviveability. 234's are great for hit and run but hard to aim needing 3 x the calibrating of other bombers. The fuel lasts longer than you think in these as they become allot more economical at height.

If I havent allocated you its simply because I dont know if you will be there and what you fly. We are short of Lanc or B24 pilots for the city and porking squads and we need volunteers. 24's may be ok for both City and HQ. Zak I would like you with me or Ean you sound confident.

We will probably need to up lancs and even 24's 15 minutes or so before everything else to auto climb. Above all the deeper penetration part of the mission will need height. We wont know until we have the map.

In summary I am confident about the factory plus city aspect of the mission. The HQ and local pork will be very challenging but could add huge impact to the overall result.

Please suggest ammendments to the plan and volunteer for one of the various roles Basketball

We can do this given a small map and not too many 163's.

"Everybody fights and nobody cries"


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PostSubject: Re: Strategic Bombing (Read 4th)   Wed Nov 26, 2008 12:00 pm

For the porking and Factory atacks I would reccomend 3 sets of 3 B17's with the 12 x500lb loadout.

The 17 takes more punishment than the 24 and is equally strong in defence.

I am hoping we get around 14 so then 3 for the hq and 2 for the city in Lancs or 24's if they carry what is considerd sufficient ord for this i prefer 24's becase they will time better with the 17's and stand a better chance against 163's in my opinion. Bomb Load should be 8x1000 as the 2k bombs in my opinion are undermodelled.

Vuo and my group will be flying back up on the city as the most important target.

If on the day we can only find a large map we might consider dropping one Zone Plus the HQ.
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PostSubject: Re: Strategic Bombing (Read 4th)   Wed Nov 26, 2008 8:55 pm

I think this will work well, plus three bombers in a semi tight formation (less then 1k from each other) will make it easier with no escorts. I will be happy to lead.

PS has anyone given any thought to who gets this load of destruction...Bish or Rook?
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PostSubject: Re: Strategic Bombing (Read 4th)   Wed Nov 26, 2008 9:48 pm

Medic71 wrote:
I think this will work well, plus three bombers in a semi tight formation (less then 1k from each other) will make it easier with no escorts. I will be happy to lead.

PS has anyone given any thought to who gets this load of destruction...Bish or Rook?

Bish is clearly first choice (cos we hate them) imho but we must aim above all for maximum impact on the day. This is an experiment we can perfect into a techinique and a weapon in our arsenal.
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PostSubject: Re: Strategic Bombing (Read 4th)   Thu Nov 27, 2008 8:19 am

I say Bish too. But we need to wait until we see what map it is and how the bases are located.
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PostSubject: Re: Strategic Bombing (Read 4th)   Sat Nov 29, 2008 11:44 am

Floats link to black sheep site is one of the most important aspect of bombing.

If formation flying is not discussed we are flying incorrectly.

Formation bombing = destroying the target efficiently + using formation to defend each other.

As for flying Lancasters we don't not have night fighting here, there main defense is height and the cover of darkness . If we do encounter any decent fighter pilots your guns are not much of a help.

I would be fun flying in decent formations and causing havoc to fighters when they do dive in for the kill.

A good bomber formation should be as hard to destroy for a group of fighters as it is for a group of fighters to attack a base.

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PostSubject: Re: Strategic Bombing (Read 4th)   Sun Nov 30, 2008 6:20 am

zack1234 wrote:
Floats link to black sheep site is one of the most important aspect of bombing.

If formation flying is not discussed we are flying incorrectly.

Formation bombing = destroying the target efficiently + using formation to defend each other.

As for flying Lancasters we don't not have night fighting here, there main defense is height and the cover of darkness . If we do encounter any decent fighter pilots your guns are not much of a help.

I would be fun flying in decent formations and causing havoc to fighters when they do dive in for the kill.

A good bomber formation should be as hard to destroy for a group of fighters as it is for a group of fighters to attack a base.

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unless a p-38 is stoopid enough to attack you from direct rear, then just shoot him in his face and lol! Twisted Evil bounce bounce

(i say this because this, (meaning me) silly p38 pilot was attacking lancs from high rear, making swiping diagonal passes, and I got too excited, and on one I guess left myself in his sights, because I took a bullet (or 10) to the brain
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